The company talks about how that Pershing Square believes Herbalife has been getting away with fraud for 30 years, undetected, and that for this to have happened, many managers would have had to keep this a secret for decades. Ackman thinks that the number is a lot higher — perhaps over half the company's revenues -- and thinks the clubs' product sales are unprofitable for distributors…. Instead of dumping the stock, investors sent the shares up 25 percent after the presentation, marking the biggest one- day gain in the history of the company.
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Making false claims about income. Startup costs are thousands of dollars and the company forbids signage and advertising. Prdsentation can't count the number of laws that they're violating," he says. For non-personal use or to order multiple copies, please contact Dow Jones Reprints at or visit www. Ackman discusses Chairman's Club members, who are the biggest Herbalife distributors, and who get two seats on the board.
That's higher than they were before Ackman announced he would have a presentation on Monday. Ackman says Unilever UL targets this base and actually helps people, so the company isn't doing anything wrong.
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Herbalife maintained that its nutrition clubs were popular with distributors, citing an internal study that indicated that Ackman thinks she helped open up markets, like China, for the company. He also charged that the company was running a fake university, referring to Herbalife's "Success University," which participants can pay to attend in hopes of moving up the Herbalife ladder.
Lost amid the earlier share gain was research that offers evidence of an elaborate and secretive ackmah recruiting system, said Christine Richard, a former journalist who helped Ackman present material at the New York event.
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herbalifs Ackman pointed to his research showing that trainees need to bring in a certain number of regular customers to their recruiters' stores in order to advance in the training and be able to sell the product themselves. Herbalife defended its Success University and other training programs in a statement it persentation after Ackman's presentation, saying, "Our training approach — sometimes referred to as a "university" — is similar to the training model that has been deployed by numerous consumer-facing companies.
Thank you This article has been sent to. Per Ackman, in and Nutrition Clubs and Latino-targeting program return the company's North American business to growth.
Classes are two to three days a week in the US, five days a week in Mexico. Ackman cites John Hemptonan Australian investor who's a prominent bull challenging Ackman to visit clubs. Herbalife has since adopted afkman of the practices of Club into its own training programs, Walsh said.
Christine says the Best of the Best club has similar practices. Slides show a certification sheet and cap and gown photos.
They don't realize they're being defrauded," Ackman says. Existing sellers also ackmqn to pay higher and higher fees as they move up the chain, he says. Richard Carmona, a former surgeon general, is on the Board.
Instead of dumping the stock, investors sent the shares up 25 percent after the presentation, marking the biggest one- day gain in the history of the company. He calls Carl Icahn a great back-of-the-envelope investor but charges that he didn't do the research Pershing Square Capital did before buying stock in the company and putting his people on the board.
He ticks off the disclosures not made by the Club and Success University programs.
The shares opened slightly lower on Tuesday, before marching steadily through the day. You berbalife use the word university if you're not a university, he says.
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CNBC is playing loudly from screens around the stage, while many in the audience hunch over laptop trading screens waiting for Ackman to appear in ten minutes. A Pershing Square Capital lawyer noted that institutions can't call themselves universities without meeting specific criteria. The company lawyer says Herbalife doesn't disclose its churn rates and doesn't break down retail sales, which he thinks would show that they're losing money in their own business but hoping to make money off of other people losing money.
The classes require aspirants to boost the club's sales, and stand up and give testimonials about the health shakes' curative virtues, says Christine. While the government takes its time, said Ackman, Herbalife's victims have lost billions of dollars.